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Surinaamse Brouwerij

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Doesn't seem notable to me. Primary author fails to recognize that 1. it's not famous, 2. its logo is that of Parbo Bier. The author seems to be lazy and was relieved when I only PRODded it. He added two references and said that they made Parbo Bier. Unacceptable article and does not strike me as notable. Not even on the Dutch Wikipedia (Suriname is Dutch-speaking). J (t) 01:34, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Jeff, thanks for your input. As I'm sure you are aware, the notability of an article does not necessarily depend on things like fame, importance, or popularity. And you're right, I did put the Parbo Bier logo as the lead image. Surinaamse Brouwerij makes Parbo Bier. It's kind of like how Samuel Adams Brewing Company redirects to Samuel Adams (beer) and there you see the Samuel Adams logo. I invite you to find a more appropriate image, though. You're right about me adding two references which cite the fact that the brewery makes Parbo Bier. I think they're pretty solid references, too. Thanks. As for your concerns that the subject of this article doesn't seem nor strike you as notable, please clarify. There are literally hundreds or articles listed under the Beer and breweries by region page that aren't tagged for deletion and a simple Google search points to Surinaamse Brouwerij as being the sole brewery in the entire country of Suriname. I'd love to know what more can be done to support this article of ours and save it from deletion. Could some other editors weigh in on this? I'll ignore the slight about me being lazy. Brian Adler (talk) 02:22, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Latin America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:47, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:48, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:48, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Brian. This article is really slow in growing. If it's the sole brewery in Suriname, then why isn't the article being improved? Also, Suriname is Dutch-speaking, so it doesn't strike anyone what this brewery is. Samuel Adams did strike me, however. I'd like to see some improvement about the history, etc., or else I'm keeping this AfD stance firmly. --J (t) 02:59, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

• Keep (and merge and redirect Parbo Bier to here). While I think both are notable topics, their histories are totally interwoven and it will be very hard to find reliably-sourced material that is really specific to just one or the other, so a merger may be indicated. Note that we also don't have a separate articles for Anchor Steam (the beer) next to Anchor Brewing Company, and likewise for the beers of most small breweries.  --Lambiam 15:20, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Good idea, Lambiam. I also think a merger of the two articles would be wise. Brian Adler (talk) 00:29, 17 July 2012 (UTC)