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Updating of death toll in Gaza war needed on regular basis now. Current numbers are from several months ago.

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Nothing in this section actually describes the right to resist, in the Wikipedia paragraph or in the sources cited. The numbers of those killed are also much worse by now, and are probably better documented at Casualties of the 2023 Israel–Hamas war. Pharos (talk) 18:21, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a difference between a population that became occupied by a foreign power because that foreign power wanted to increase its land holdings or natural resources. An example of this type of occupation is the Arab conquests of 5,000 miles of land from Morocco to India all these lands were Christian Jewish Zoroastrian Buddhist and Hindu

and were stolen by murderous wars to enlarge the caliphate.

The other type of occupation is when a foreign country wants to live in peace with its neighbors

but is attacked by these neighbors .The foreign country is put into a situation where it is forced to seize the lands from which the attacks against it were launched in order protect the lives of its citizens. This occupation is laudable because the foreign country only holds on

to land to preserve life . The foreign country is willing to return the “occupied”land as soon as it is sure that no new attacks will be launched against it.

The Israeli “occupation” is an example of the laudable type because Israel was not seeking to enlarge its land or natural resources and would vacate these lands,as it did the Sinai,if it was sure it would not be attacked again from these territories. 2603:7000:2303:D32F:5062:3DAA:3AC7:A2EF (talk) 12:50, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is false. Zionism, according to the first Zionist Congress seeks to obtain all lands in Palestine (from the river to the sea) as a ethno-religious state in accordance with Biblical claims of “historic” Israel. Specifically, Numbers 34: 1-12 and/or Ezekiel 47, 13-20. So, clearly Israel, as guided in its founding ideology IS pursuing the kind of occupation you describe as simply “increasing its lands”. 69.61.242.201 (talk) 02:48, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 The Israeli “occupation” is an example of the laudable type because Israel was not seeking to enlarge its land or natural resources and would vacate these lands,as it did the Sinai,if it was sure it would not be attacked again from these territories.
 [[Special:Contributions/2603:7000:2303:D32F:5062:3DAA:3AC7:A2EF|2603:7000:2303:D32F:5062:3DAA:3AC7:A2EF]] ([[User talk:2603:7000:2303:D32F:5062:3DAA:3AC7:A2EF|talk]]) 12:50, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
+:That is false. Zionism, according to the first Zionist Congress seeks to obtain all lands in Palestine (from the river to the sea) as a ethno-religious state in accordance with Biblical claims of “historic” Israel. Specifically, Numbers 34: 1-12 and/or Ezekiel 47, 13-20. So, clearly Israel, as guided in its founding ideology IS pursuing the kind of occupation you describe as simply “increasing its lands”. [[Special:Contributions/69.61.242.201|69.61.242.201]] ([[User talk:69.61.242.201|talk]]) 02:48, 17 May 2024 (UTC)